S5 Episode 8: Setting the Baseline for Culture Transformation
What if your church’s next step is not another meeting, another sermon series, or another program — but an honest baseline?
In the Season 5 finale of Breaking the Addition Addiction, Jason and Brian bring the entire season to a practical and hopeful landing. This season has helped leaders see the difference between addition and multiplication, name the scorecards shaping their systems, identify the cultural syndromes that stall disciple-making, and face the cost of clarity.
But clarity is not the finish line.
Clarity is the doorway.
In this episode, Jason and Brian unpack why leaders should not rush from awareness straight into action. Before a church can redesign for multiplication, it must first see reality clearly. That is where assessment comes in — not as an indictment, but as an invitation.
The Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment helps leaders stop guessing, see what their current systems are actually producing, and establish a shared baseline for culture transformation.
In this episode, they discuss:
Why new programs rarely change old cultures
Why assessment is not pass/fail, but a tool for clarity
How proximity can create blind spots for leaders
Why objective clarity helps teams move from opinions to shared reality
What a baseline actually is — and why it creates hope
What leaders should avoid after receiving assessment results
Why the assessment is not ammo, but a mirror
How Season 5 sets up Season 6: Designing for Multiplication
The invitation is simple:
Lead from reality, not assumption.
If this season has stirred something in you, take the next faithful step. Set the baseline. Look in the mirror. Let Jesus bring clarity.
Take the Disciple Multiplication Capacity Assessment
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https://www.disciplesmade.com
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